Jun 2, 2009

Montana Wolf Hunting

What these asshole P.E.T.A. nuts don't tell you is by protecting these wolves they kill hundreds of ranchers cattle and sheep. That makes you pay more for beef and lamb at the store.
Get this, it's PEOPLE first, animals last.
If it's not in the food chain of man, it is competing for out food.
Tell a starving child they can't eat because animals have rights!

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R2K said...

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While there is much logic behind greatly reducing or even stopping meat eating... there is no argument that it is not normal and natural for humans to eat meat; it really is. Look at your teeth if you dont think so! :)

PETA uses lies, scare tactics, and bullying to get their point across. Like the anti-vaccine movement, they are mostly full of it. Animals do deserve dignity and protection, but PETA is not the way to go about it. I suggest anyone check out the ASPCA for that.

There is nothing wrong with eating animals as long as we dont ruin our health, the environment, and cause needless suffering. Sadly meat eating tends to do all of these things. For that reason, the best thing you can do for the environment is stop eating meat or at least eat far less. Not because it is "bad" or "wrong" but simply because it may be impossible for 6 billion humans to all eat meat anymore.

Having said that, I enjoy eating all kinds of meat. I get excited to think about all the different animals that one can eat. Including insects, and odd organs like brains and skin. Pigs feet, pork rinds, tongue and ear, snake and gator, baby octopus and fish heads... good eatin'. We just need to find a way to do it in reasonable moderation. That may mean only a few pieces of beef jerky a week. Not the end of the world really.

Ron said...

Being a long time non-resident Idaho hunter, it's been all too easy to notice that as the wolf population increased the deer and elk population has decreased. Most noticeable is the behavior of elk in areas with known wolf packs. The majestic sound of a bull elk bugling is now a dinner bell for any wolves in hearing range. I am not saying that all elk that bugle are being killed by wolves, however the elk behavior is definitely changing. The elk are now much more reluctant to make noise: calls, bugles, mews and other elk talk – the sounds that traditionally echoed off hillsides, canyons, and river bottoms are much less likely to be heard in recent years. These are also the sounds that attract hunters and their wallets. Revenue from hunters far exceeds that from the 75-100 people a year who come to see a wolf, if they know where to look? It is too bad that wildlife managers allowed a non-native species of wolf to be allowed to wreak havoc on a wildlife population that was doing just fine! Worse, their hands are now being tied when they try to manage population levels of this same non-native species. What species should we introduce next? Woolly mammoth, Sabre tooth tiger, how about a T-rex. Maybe someone in a lab has some DNA from one or all of these animals that can be manipulated in some perverse way, and turned loose in Idaho: The experimental state!

Anonymous said...

wow, you are the epitome of the taker culture. you should read Ishmael so you can learn some sense and change your ridiculous opinion

Anonymous said...

At the end of the day i reckon you should not bring religion into the argument. and also, if a dog came at you with the intention to kill you and in self defense you killed it, would you class that as wrong? and as the other person said look at your teeth, we have evolved into being meat eaters.
PETA have always stated the animals should have the same rights as humans. well animals eat other animals so on those grounds humans have the same rights as animals so we should be aloud to eat meat.

Anonymous said...

I have been writing a research paper on the Rocky Mountain Wolf Hunt for the last few weeks. I don't claim to know everything, but I have done a lot of research on both sides of the argument.
Honestly, I think there are better alternatives than a all out wolf season, like livestock deterrents, birthcontrol darts, or specifying one gender to be hunted. I understand that people's livelihoods are at stake here, but I think we can preserve them and the wolf at the same time.

And I don't agree with the methods that PETA uses. They are extremists and they give animal lovers a bad name, but once in a while they do something good by bringing attention to animal issues that wouldn't normally receive coverage.

Anonymous said...

Just stupid...

Have you ever eaten a wolf?
I would like to know.

PETA do use idiotic ways to bring attention to animals.

"Americans are MEAT Eaters."

Maybe redneck assholes like this quote. It's untrue, though.


"You don't like it get the hell out of this country you friggin losers!"

Ha. Ha. Very funny. People eat people in other countries. And dogs. I hear you hate every animal but dogs? Take a visit to China. I'm sure they'll give you a sample.

Anyway, if you spend time blogging this crap all the time, I suggest you get a life.

Wolf hunting is for scared, weak idiots.
Now bitches, go kill something to eat it.
Not because you're scared of it.

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Anonymous said...

I know that lean red meat is the demise of all man kind that is why humans have been slowly dying off since the beginning of time. Oh nevermind i just remembered that the population grows every year. And the vast, vast majority of people still eat red meat. It has many proteins amino acids that are not just beneficial but necessary. And it is much more enjoyable to eat a steak than take a vitamin. In regards to the wolf hunt, someone said to limit it to one sex or use birth control darts, that sort of fairytale solution would not work. Hunters can't just say, "I'm gonna go kill a wolf today" it doesn't work like that. They aren't an ungulate that has strict watering patterns or comes out to graze at dusk and back into the trees at dawn. You rarely see wolves and when you do they don't stand there to make your acquaintance they tend to disappear. Making the dart with a limited range rather ineffective to impossible. And I understand that you are just a writer and probably don't spend much time actually in the wilderness, but wolves possess a very heavy coat and a tail that covers their genitalia. Think of a dog with a thick coat like a long haired collie or a husky. You can't tell the gender unless you are basically petting them, or you see them urinate. These are suggestions not solutions. A wolf hunt is in order, this year the quota was taken. Which is a good thing. I keep hearing talk of "Oh, they are only killing the alpha males and females. So now there won't be any breeding." That could not be further from the truth, only alpha males and females breed, but if the alpah female is taken the male will breed all of the females in the pack, that is proven. If you aren't following the logic that means more litters of wolf pups and therefore greater overall numbers. The leftists and PETA followers don't get this. But what is worse is that they don't want to get this, and it is impossible to reason with someone who is out of touch. Wolves do not just kill for survival either, ask any ROCKY MOUNTAIN biologist,(I stress Rocky mountain) they will tell you that the majority of documented wolf kills on livestock and wildlife are largely uneaten, the tend to focus on the internal organs, the stomach and intestines.

Diana said...

Hmmm... I wonder if these wolves are killing the cattle because they want to eat! What a concept.

As for the rest of your comment, this is exactly what I would expect an uneducated, ignorant, and plain dumb American just like you to say. Humans are animals too. Do your research.

Bird of Paradise said...

PETA are a bunch of idiots whos brains are pea sized perhaps smaller PETA IS FOR IDIOTS

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Anonymous said...

This blog was obviously designed to generate controversy. I don't think there is anything wrong with hunting wolves...But I think wolf hunts should be fair. I would like to see a hunter take on an adult male Grey wolf with a hunting knife, and light armor. I think the knife works for teeth and claws, and the armor as fur...You're almost equal, right? Wait, you don't want to? Why? Because you're an inferior species physically? Hm...Maybe that's a sign that we should respect wildlife rather then abuse it. Hunters make such a big deal about shooting a wolf. Would it make you feel manly to beat up a kid? Because essentially with the advantages our technology provides it's about the same. As for farmers, I was raised on a farm. And coyotes(not wolves) pissed us off! But you know what? I don't hate them. No, my father and I adapted and used our brains for something more useful then a gun and built coyote-proof fences to protect our animals and let our dog stay outside to chase off the more pushy critters. PROBLEM SOLVED. I solution is NOT in a bullet. Use our amazing brains and figure it out. Unless you're also inferior in intelligence to the wolf...

Bob Sherman said...

The wolves that were introduced are a non-native species. Many top biologists were against introducing this subspecies into the Northern Rockies.
Non-native wolf post

Anonymous said...

The coyote/ wolf proof fence is moronic. Curious How did you do that? Did you trench your fences? If so how deep? Coyotes and wolves den or dig if you will? And how high were they? If your average border collie can jump into the back of a pickup from a standstill then I am guessing a coyote can do it too. Another question, how many acres did you protect with that wonderful dog? These ranchers have miles and miles of fence. How many dogs would you recommend to protect that. Just ballpark it and I will let my dad know how many to buy. Come on man, grow up not very cost effective and/or even remotely practical.

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Kriss said...

They weed out the sick & old, big favor to you I'd think. Thanks for not killing them all off! So the next genertions can actually know they are still alive out there. Instead of reading about them in history books. I actually respect them more than people, who kill things for sport, "ummm, me big hunter", kill from 100 ft away. Wow, how impressive.

Anonymous said...

I have been a “hunting resident” of Idaho for over 14 years now. Through my experiences of hunting and experiencing the beauty of nature and its gifts, I have grown to feel that I am truly responsible for the future of our wildlife. Without these experiences of hunting I think it would be easy to jump on the band wagon to say that wolf hunting is wrong. I have nothing against wolves and have seen them in the wild and have heard them howling on many different elk and deer hunts, and have to say that it is really neat. Just like I take part in the conservation of deer and elk, I would also take part in the conservation of wolves, and did in the 2009 hunting season. While their numbers have grown to the point that numbers of other big game wolf prey animals have dropped, I think it is time to start checking numbers. Hunters account for the majority of wildlife conservation programs and as a hunter I can say that we have an appreciation for wildlife that is just not possible and cannot be obtained by non-hunters. I have a love for wildlife through all seasons of the year, and during the fall I take part in the harvest of one Deer, one Elk, Ducks and Grouse, to help Idaho Fish and Game keep a sustainable population for the future. While I do this I practice conservation and always take the most mature male animal that I can find, leaving the females to repopulate. Not to mention that I donate money to different wildlife conservation programs, people like me contribute to our economy, as most of us know that it is a lot cheaper to just go and buy some chickens and some beef from the grocery store. At the end of the day hunters are the true key to sustain our wildlife and therefore it is easy to see that all wildlife populations should be managed at a state level. We should get rid of programs that attract and allow the out of state, money hungry, true exploiters of wildlife to benefit from an issue that needs to be dealt with at a state level. I have to say that I personally would not eat a wolf, but can all but guarantee that a wolf that has been harvested in the woods by a hunter is going to be skinned for the trophy and later that night or the next day will be eaten by bear, coyotes and other birds of prey. i.e. the meat does not go to waste. I felt the need to write this as this fall I came upon wolf tracks behind Bogus Basin where our local kids ski and snowboard.

Marisa said...

I believe you are entitled to your own opinion, so I will pass on bashing your blog. But what I do believe is wrong, is the fact that you said "people first, animals last". In my eyes, everyone, including animals, are equally important in this world. They are helpless creatures, who have absolutely no say in anything that happens to them. With that said, I prefer to treat them with nothing less than complete respect. I wish everyone would do the same.

Anonymous said...

Never in my blog did I say "people firs animals last" What I did say is that it is our resposability to insure a healthy population of game animals for the future. I agree that animals are equally important in this world. I don't agree they are hopeless. If you have ever seen an Elk or a Deer running through the forest on a 45 degree slope like an olympic athlete running the open 100m I'm sure you would feel the same. Although I can see how you think they don't have any say in what happens to them, in many cases they don't, there is a natural cycle of life. Predators eat prey, prey numbers drop as predator numbers grow. To rebalance this, the number of predators has do drop. This happens through starvation and desease. The same goes for prey animals such as Deer and Elk. Going unchecked their numbers will grow to the point where habitat can't sustain them. To reach a healthy population some have to die, and this happens through starvation and desease. Just as the cos and sin wave can be found in nature, the graph of these two mathematical functions looks similar to what naturally happens to wildlife. Would you rather be shot and die quickly or would you rather starve to death or die from desease? Personally I would rather be shot. To be a "hunter" you have to have nothing less that complete respect for the animal, and if you don't, you should not take part in conservation of this meathod.

Spurwing Plover said...

How about introducing a pack of wolves into PETAS HQ in FAIRFAX VIRGINIA and lets see what happens with these annoying band of ignorant hillyw wackos

Lauren said...

Hello, my name is Lauren and this is my point of view. Mind me, I am only 13,however I have all rights to express my feelings in this subject. Wolves are a very important animals ( and my favorite)even though they do hunt cattle and farm animals, you must know those farms are on their land. Or before you forcibly stole it from them. I have all respects for you people, well most of you people. You say we are more important, that we have the Rights!!! You have a point. Now use those very rights to save our world. You know how when your in school or in church they say every thing is equal??? White people, black people, kids and adults??? Well wolves are to. And if you do not "have the guts" ( as you say in the “leave your comment” box) than go. If you insist on hunting than I think you should try what that one person said and make the fight even. A gun vs. teeth is not even. My last comment is Wolves are my favorite animal and I have lived in places they were supposed to be. I have never seen a wild one. That is one Childs dream crushed. You happy now???

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